Why in our liberated times do women still accept ‘putting up with sex’ just to avoid being single? I am not judging anyone else’s experiences. If other women are content with sex as they find it – I’m very happy for them.
But are they really? Or are they simply more accepting?
A woman in her early thirties said that she didn’t see the point of sex unless a couple was planning a family. Suddenly I realised how idealised my aspirations had been for a partner to be both my lover and my friend. I grew up assuming that adult life naturally included a mutually enjoyable sexual relationship.
Few women appear to care about orgasm and sexual pleasure. Even if she does care, a woman often has to accept that sex is more about appreciating her man’s arousal and about making the most of physical intimacy, than about orgasm.
Sex is much, much more important (both emotionally and physiologically) to most men than it is to women. Conversely men are less motivated by relationships and family. So sex is what keeps them bought into supporting women in their life-goals of providing a home and raising children. Men hope when they marry that they can look forward to sex for life.
“As a general guideline, a woman needs to be emotionally fulfilled before she can long for sexual contact. A man, however, gets much of his emotional fulfilment during sex.” (p16 Mars & Venus in the Bedroom 1995)
Women need information to make the most of their sexual experiences but equally men need to be encouraged to invest in pleasuring their partner rather than seeing sex purely as an opportunity to enjoy their own orgasm.
Sex helps motivate men to engage on family
A man in his late sixties commented to me: “It’s a good job that men are interested in sex because otherwise the human race would die out!” The fact is that even in committed sexual relationships, sex is rarely about producing children.
There are two views of sex. There is ‘reproductive sex’ based on intercourse, which since it leads to family is often the only view that many women have of sex. Then there is ‘sex for pleasure’, which since it is associated with men paying for sex (either directly or indirectly) naturally revolves around male gratification.
The fact that prostitutes and mistresses exist is evidence that men enjoy sexual pleasure. Within a committed relationship, a woman has the choice of providing her man with sex or risking him going elsewhere. Unfortunately, many women are not always well informed either about female sexuality or about enjoying sexual pleasure within a sexual relationship.
“How do we explain the imbalance between the genders?” asks Bel Mooney. “ … the modern woman does not feel bound by what was once seen as marital duty – encapsulated in the phrase ‘conjugal rights’. If this was not so common why are there so many sad jests about ‘headaches’?” Bel suggests that perhaps the answer lies in men’s focus on sex alone whereas women talk more about affection and companionship. She observes that “Couples who keep on having fun together, who share activities, who go out for a meal to talk, …” are more likely to survive long-term relationships. (Bel Mooney’s column page 9 The Times UK newspaper Wednesday 28th September 2005 entitled: ‘I love my wife, but she doesn’t want sex. What can I do about it?’)
Men have a need for regular sex throughout their lives. Sexual frustration causes men to become bad tempered whereas good sex makes them more amenable. Not much of a choice really! So a woman needs to learn how to keep arousing her man over a lifetime. If she can also learn how to get some sexual pleasure for herself then so much the better.
Bettina Arndt, is an Australian writer and sex therapist. She talks about her book that discusses the issues that arise as a result of mis-matched sex drives. Read on: ‘The Sex Diaries’
I can testify that when/if I get married it should be an intellectually stimulating relationship, but also one in which I know my wife enjoys having sex with me and will continue to do so for a life-time. However, I also think that intellectual stimulation is a necessary part of any relationship and that the mental connection between people is as important for getting the right sexual responses from a woman as just knowing where her ‘- spots’ are. What do you think?
Y’all miss something here. For a woman, sex is in the mind. It’s simple enough to figure out what stimulates the ‘mindset.’ An intellectual man knows that. There’s nothing in that concept that indicates a woman is inhibited. Basically: Women need a reason; men just need a place.
Bull-shit. “Men just need a place”? How vague, insulting and positively primitive is that idea. I’m not generally one for political correctness, but goddamn! Broad, slicing generalisations do little more than create festering flesh wounds that no one appreciates, and a few honestly hate.
One of the reasons that adults find it so difficult to discuss sex openly is because we can all be so easily offended by other people’s views on such a personal subject. So it’s important to consider how other people might feel as a result of what we say.
I have edited my material for Ways Women Orgasm a million times over a period of years because everytime I want to express something I can see that someone will be offended.
So men can be offended if it is implied that because they are enthusiasic about sex this necessarily means that they are less discriminating. Not every man has made use of a prostitute, for example. Equally there are women who are as promiscuous as any man might be. This is their choice and more down to personality and personal values than to sex drive per se. No doubt they have something to prove but it’s certainly not about enjoying orgasm.
My focus is not on judging people’s sexual decisions but on differentiating between the motivation that men and women generally have to engage on a sexual relationship. These are likely to be different because women find arousal and orgasm much more difficult to achieve (especially with a partner).
I have never ‘made use of’ a prostitute. But lately I find my desire for plain outright sex decreasing a bit since it’s less fun now than it used to be. The thrill is a little less than it USED TO BE and I seem to look forward more to intimacy than to sex; not to say it isn’t fun, but it’s a lot of work, when sometimes I just want to relax, if you get my meaning. Not that I’m really looking for a long term relationship but something fun and intimate with someone I can trust. So I also disagree that men just need a place, coz I had a couple and It was just a chore after a bit. What do you say?
My observation is that men can be truly devoted to the women they love — just look at the film Titanic! Men though seem to need to express their love for a woman through sex and women find this difficult to relate to because we don’t have the same need.
A woman can sometimes feel that a man loves sex more than he loves her. Men’s sex drive causes them to be overly focused on their own need for orgasm and especially younger men have difficulty devoting time to their lover’s arousal.
The fact is that men probably need women more than women need men. A woman does need a man for protection and support in order to have a family. But a man relies on a woman for affection because men do not get the same emotional rewards from same sex friendships and from caring for their children.
It’s a real positive that men slow down a bit as they grow older (post 35) — older men stand to make much better lovers! Women too come to appreciate their sexuality more as they get older and the clitoris is less sensitive which makes it easier for a lover to pleasure.
Sex for women and men varies in such a way as Women are psychological and emotional while Men are biological.
We can be offended as a result of what people say or what people see? You try to discuss sex with people and they may say, what do you think about my looks? Man would answer to the woman, I like to see you as you are. She says, well here I am what do you think about my bust. I don’t know the male says, you better remove your tee shirt and expose it for me to make an evaluation. Female becomes angry and starts shouting, you want my titts? You may as well undress me and take me bold. Believe me I have had this said to me in public so I know. It especially comes from girls and women who like showing a lot of flesh.
Believe it or not, some women claim to be unaware of the effect that the sight of their body can have on a man.
This is because women do not have the same reaction to the sight of a naked male body. In fact, most women probably prefer to see a man dressed in a style that indicates his social status — e.g. James Bond in black tie evening suit and Richard Gere in ‘Officer and a Gentleman’.
Men misinterpret women’s motivations. Women dress provocatively in order to attract male attention but then they want the right to be able to accept the attentions only of the man they want. See my story ‘Young and Sexy’ under the sexual desire category.
This sexual behaviour can be highly misleading to men who assume that women are indicating a general enthusiasm for sex. This explains why in more conservative societies women have to cover up their bodies more than we do in the West.
Interesting story, not sure I agree with its premise, but then I’m not a woman lol.
It’s really helpful if people can be specific. What premise do you not agree with, Karl, and why? Please provide some details.